They're big! I still want an Ober someday. My goats are on the smaller side, the biggest one (who will be 3 in April is about 190-195) and is about 35 at the shoulder (but his rump is higher - Not the best packgoat conformation. But with only my small truck to haul them around, the smaller guys seems to be ok for me. Another one is 5 and he's about 180. And then there's the one turning two (is that right Dave?) in March - haven't bothered measuring him lately.
*Saltlick* Rancho Topaz
near Topaz Lake, Nevada
near Topaz Lake, Nevada