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07-24-2016, 07:34 PM
TipsyToad
Hello
The first thing is determine the threat level.
Bear,wolves, loose dogs and their owners and arm for the most likely.
This is from me personally taking into consideration my background with LEO and firearms.
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I am on the East Coast not many bears and wolves around here in SC. People /Dogs YES.
I have been on the West Coast in NFS Lands were it was needed to carry a big bore rifle and Magnum pistol for Cats and bears. Well Hidden Pot Growers too.
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Moving On:
Yes, I know about being armed.
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In 5 Expeditions around here as I refer to them.
I have had several run ins with people walking dogs, most were the dogs being afraid of the goat boys and the goat boys staying very close to the herd boss (me).
I have had 3 unfriendly dogs mess with me, 2 different incidents.
A lot of people like pepper spray,bear spray or Tazers.
Have some experience with all of the above, I don't like them in my current situation.
What I carry with permits and the skill to use are for "Repellent" situations.
Walther Model 84 .20 air soft pistol. WITH 20 ROUNDS.
It STINGS BAD close up. 350-400 fps on the Plastic BB.
Then there is either the 9MM compact auto in my belt pouch like shown in the give away panel here.
Or My Old 357 Mag Revolver I carry if I don't have the 9MM with me.
Read about my mistakes on the Truck Chashing Goat Page.
Last resort is your walking stick and a NOT Gentle , aim for the ribs. Hit Hard.
My walking stick/herding crook is 3/4 fiberglass with a metal point for traction (Think Spear)
Enough weight that with a full arm swing capable of breaking bones or Skewering a animal or person.
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Things to think about:
In my case I have a CWP so I can carry both live guns and replica Air Soft with no problems from LEO's
As well as very well trained to use both.
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What you need for defense of you and your trail goats depends on the environment of the trail.
Example:
One my Favorite Trails Chestnut Ridge Preserve.
I have run into the same person (2) times now walking his bird dogs. Well manned/trained dogs.
We have stopped and talked dogs on sit/stay he carries a 2 meter FM radio, a cell phone, and a suspicious bulge under his field jacket. I figure he packs a gun.
Dogs have GPS tracking collars on.
No problems from my point of view.
He was surprised and wanted to know how come goats were that compatible with staying with their person.
So he got the whole Pack Goat Story.
Turned out he is a Competitive Bird Dog Trainer/ Breeder and Dove hunter. it's a Southern Thing Ya'll
The last time we met I had a feeling that he might be thinking of getting a pack goat or two for hunting.
He did ask early on how goats respond to gun fire, told him mine had to get chased off my range and then stayed behind my firing line when I was shooting everything from 22 to 308WCF
Enough for now
Happy Trails
hihobaron Blizzard,Fuzzy,Pete,Sam and the Troops in SC
Hello
The first thing is determine the threat level.
Bear,wolves, loose dogs and their owners and arm for the most likely.
This is from me personally taking into consideration my background with LEO and firearms.
==========================
I am on the East Coast not many bears and wolves around here in SC. People /Dogs YES.
I have been on the West Coast in NFS Lands were it was needed to carry a big bore rifle and Magnum pistol for Cats and bears. Well Hidden Pot Growers too.
===========================
Moving On:
Yes, I know about being armed.
==================
In 5 Expeditions around here as I refer to them.
I have had several run ins with people walking dogs, most were the dogs being afraid of the goat boys and the goat boys staying very close to the herd boss (me).
I have had 3 unfriendly dogs mess with me, 2 different incidents.
A lot of people like pepper spray,bear spray or Tazers.
Have some experience with all of the above, I don't like them in my current situation.
What I carry with permits and the skill to use are for "Repellent" situations.
Walther Model 84 .20 air soft pistol. WITH 20 ROUNDS.
It STINGS BAD close up. 350-400 fps on the Plastic BB.
Then there is either the 9MM compact auto in my belt pouch like shown in the give away panel here.
Or My Old 357 Mag Revolver I carry if I don't have the 9MM with me.
Read about my mistakes on the Truck Chashing Goat Page.
Last resort is your walking stick and a NOT Gentle , aim for the ribs. Hit Hard.
My walking stick/herding crook is 3/4 fiberglass with a metal point for traction (Think Spear)
Enough weight that with a full arm swing capable of breaking bones or Skewering a animal or person.
=========================
Things to think about:
In my case I have a CWP so I can carry both live guns and replica Air Soft with no problems from LEO's
As well as very well trained to use both.
==========================
What you need for defense of you and your trail goats depends on the environment of the trail.
Example:
One my Favorite Trails Chestnut Ridge Preserve.
I have run into the same person (2) times now walking his bird dogs. Well manned/trained dogs.
We have stopped and talked dogs on sit/stay he carries a 2 meter FM radio, a cell phone, and a suspicious bulge under his field jacket. I figure he packs a gun.
Dogs have GPS tracking collars on.
No problems from my point of view.
He was surprised and wanted to know how come goats were that compatible with staying with their person.
So he got the whole Pack Goat Story.
Turned out he is a Competitive Bird Dog Trainer/ Breeder and Dove hunter. it's a Southern Thing Ya'll
The last time we met I had a feeling that he might be thinking of getting a pack goat or two for hunting.
He did ask early on how goats respond to gun fire, told him mine had to get chased off my range and then stayed behind my firing line when I was shooting everything from 22 to 308WCF
Enough for now
Happy Trails
hihobaron Blizzard,Fuzzy,Pete,Sam and the Troops in SC